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Trying to clean up this wiki would be impossible, and would involve deleting valid (but problem) articles. That simply isn't possible.

Of course you have options, and we want to help this change go smoothly. If there is a fork in your language, you may want to talk them about merging in. We can provide a database dump of all articles created here, or you could be more selective taking only the best new articles. Or you could go to alternative hosting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services there are many available]]. I can't recommend one, but I know that a few wikis in a similar situation have gone to Miraheze.

Of course you have options, and we want to help this change go smoothly. If there is a fork in your language, you may want to talk them about merging in. We can provide a database dump of all articles created here, or you could be more selective taking only the best new articles. Or you could go to alternative hosting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services there are many available]. I can't recommend one, but I know that a few wikis in a similar situation have gone to Miraheze.

We can't provide a dump of the images for copyright reasons - what's likely fair use here would be violating the original copyright if provided in a data dump. But you may be able to use sometihing like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki to help.

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:We need help: we need a full database dump. and more: after what time do you evict us? --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 00:48, февраля 27, 2019 (UTC)

::The deadline should be [https://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:A_message_from_Fandom~~#Uncyclopedia_Wikia~~ around March 31st]. You should discuss where to go, and the main options I can tell you are:

::The deadline should be [https://web.archive.org/web/20190226185511/http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:A_message_from_Fandom around March 31st]. You should discuss where to go, and the main options I can tell you are:

::#Merging with Edward Chernenko's place - which you would not agree considering the bad relations between you two and the infamous Extension:Moderation.

::#Miraheze - Some of the Wikia Uncycs, including the Italian, Polish, and Chinese have moved to Miraheze. I'm a volunteer there, and my first recommendation is this. We have our own Phabricator, and our tech supports are generally fast.

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Sorry to post this in English... I need to post to all reachable Uncycs and I'm too busy to translate the same messages one by one.

However, that's not the point. The point is that two of the supporters of Uncyclopedias, Miraheze and Uncyclopedia.co (by Lyrithya), have agreed to help all the Uncycs and to reorganize them all, including those hosted by Carlb (which have also suffered from poor technical supports for years), and have created [[meta:Forum:Reorganization_of_the_whole_Uncycs|a forum on UnMeta regarding it]]. The available options and the basic principles regarding this reorganization plan are shown there in detail, and you can seek for the solution based on the provided information.

However, that's not the point. The point is that two of the supporters of Uncyclopedias, Miraheze and Uncyclopedia.co (by Lyrithya), have agreed to help all the Uncycs and to reorganize them all, including those hosted by Carlb (which have also suffered from poor technical supports for years), and have created [[:meta:Forum:Reorganization_of_the_whole_Uncycs|a forum on UnMeta regarding it]]. The available options and the basic principles regarding this reorganization plan are shown there in detail, and you can seek for the solution based on the provided information.

After a conclusion is drawn, please post your decision to the forum above so that we can deal with issues including interwiki prefixes.

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== Interwiki ==

If the ru: and su: prefixes are in use, you'd likely have to use something else like rue: (which is Rusyn language / Русинский язык) or create a new prefix with $wgExtraLanguageNames (which is a server configuration file change, so best avoided). Even on a fast server, the dump import is slow; if I were to import en.uncyclopedia (six million revisions) to my server (newly upgraded to WD Blue 1TB SSD RAID1, which are quick as they're solid state) at one day to import 400,000 revisions it will take more than two weeks to import the whole wiki. It would take at least one day and one night to import a wiki your size (328,314 edits) - and, if it stops with errors, it takes longer. And then there are the images to import... [[Участник:Carlb|carlb]] ([[Обсуждение участника:Carlb|обсуждение]]) 18:21, марта 7, 2019 (UTC)

:In the Russian section of the Internet, the joke about the Olbanian language (with the letter “o”) as the “network Russian language” was once quite popular (and even now it is often found). This is understandable web humor for the Russian-speaking audience. So we could be the “Olbanian” section (interwiki — "olb"). As for the dump, since March 2 it practically stands still, so that we are all a bit disappointed, and maybe even go to our own server. We'll see. In any case, we remain part of the Uncy community. --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 09:16, марта 8, 2019 (UTC)

:In the Russian section of the Internet, the joke about the Olbanian language (with the letter “o”) as the “network Russian language” was once quite popular (and even now it is often found). This is understandable web humor for the Russian-speaking audience. So we could be the “Olbanian” (Олбанский) section (interwiki — "olb"). As for the dump, since March 2 it practically stands still, so that we are all a bit disappointed, and maybe even go to our own server. We'll see. In any case, we remain part of the Uncy community. --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 09:16, марта 8, 2019 (UTC)

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 Trying to clean up this wiki would be impossible, and would involve deleting valid (but problem) articles. That simply isn't possible.
-Of course you have options, and we want to help this change go smoothly. If there is a fork in your language, you may want to talk them about merging in. We can provide a database dump of all articles created here, or you could be more selective taking only the best new articles. Or you could go to alternative hosting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services there are many available]]. I can't recommend one, but I know that a few wikis in a similar situation have gone to Miraheze.
+Of course you have options, and we want to help this change go smoothly. If there is a fork in your language, you may want to talk them about merging in. We can provide a database dump of all articles created here, or you could be more selective taking only the best new articles. Or you could go to alternative hosting [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services there are many available]. I can't recommend one, but I know that a few wikis in a similar situation have gone to Miraheze.
 We can't provide a dump of the images for copyright reasons - what's likely fair use here would be violating the original copyright if provided in a data dump. But you may be able to use sometihing like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Exporting_all_the_files_of_a_wiki to help.
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 :We need help: we need a full database dump. and more: after what time do you evict us? --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 00:48, февраля 27, 2019 (UTC)
-::The deadline should be [https://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:A_message_from_Fandom#Uncyclopedia_Wikia around March 31st]. You should discuss where to go, and the main options I can tell you are:
+::The deadline should be [https://web.archive.org/web/20190226185511/http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:A_message_from_Fandom around March 31st]. You should discuss where to go, and the main options I can tell you are:
 ::#Merging with Edward Chernenko's place - which you would not agree considering the bad relations between you two and the infamous Extension:Moderation.
 ::#Miraheze - Some of the Wikia Uncycs, including the Italian, Polish, and Chinese have moved to Miraheze. I'm a volunteer there, and my first recommendation is this. We have our own Phabricator, and our tech supports are generally fast.
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 Sorry to post this in English... I need to post to all reachable Uncycs and I'm too busy to translate the same messages one by one.
-However, that's not the point. The point is that two of the supporters of Uncyclopedias, Miraheze and Uncyclopedia.co (by Lyrithya), have agreed to help all the Uncycs and to reorganize them all, including those hosted by Carlb (which have also suffered from poor technical supports for years), and have created [[meta:Forum:Reorganization_of_the_whole_Uncycs|a forum on UnMeta regarding it]]. The available options and the basic principles regarding this reorganization plan are shown there in detail, and you can seek for the solution based on the provided information.
+However, that's not the point. The point is that two of the supporters of Uncyclopedias, Miraheze and Uncyclopedia.co (by Lyrithya), have agreed to help all the Uncycs and to reorganize them all, including those hosted by Carlb (which have also suffered from poor technical supports for years), and have created [[:meta:Forum:Reorganization_of_the_whole_Uncycs|a forum on UnMeta regarding it]]. The available options and the basic principles regarding this reorganization plan are shown there in detail, and you can seek for the solution based on the provided information.
 After a conclusion is drawn, please post your decision to the forum above so that we can deal with issues including interwiki prefixes.
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 == Interwiki ==
 If the ru: and su: prefixes are in use, you'd likely have to use something else like rue: (which is Rusyn language / Русинский язык) or create a new prefix with $wgExtraLanguageNames (which is a server configuration file change, so best avoided). Even on a fast server, the dump import is slow; if I were to import en.uncyclopedia (six million revisions) to my server (newly upgraded to WD Blue 1TB SSD RAID1, which are quick as they're solid state) at one day to import 400,000 revisions it will take more than two weeks to import the whole wiki. It would take at least one day and one night to import a wiki your size (328,314 edits) - and, if it stops with errors, it takes longer. And then there are the images to import... [[Участник:Carlb|carlb]] ([[Обсуждение участника:Carlb|обсуждение]]) 18:21, марта 7, 2019 (UTC)
-:In the Russian section of the Internet, the joke about the Olbanian language (with the letter “o”) as the “network Russian language” was once quite popular (and even now it is often found). This is understandable web humor for the Russian-speaking audience. So we could be the “Olbanian” section (interwiki — "olb"). As for the dump, since March 2 it practically stands still, so that we are all a bit disappointed, and maybe even go to our own server. We'll see. In any case, we remain part of the Uncy community. --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 09:16, марта 8, 2019 (UTC)
+:In the Russian section of the Internet, the joke about the Olbanian language (with the letter “o”) as the “network Russian language” was once quite popular (and even now it is often found). This is understandable web humor for the Russian-speaking audience. So we could be the “Olbanian” (Олбанский) section (interwiki — "olb"). As for the dump, since March 2 it practically stands still, so that we are all a bit disappointed, and maybe even go to our own server. We'll see. In any case, we remain part of the Uncy community. --Icniuhtli, [[Участник:Тэйтанка-птекила|Тэйтанка]]-[[Обсуждение_участника:Тэйтанка-птекила|птекила]] 09:16, марта 8, 2019 (UTC)